Yesterday, on January 22nd, there was a memorable gathering on the German Twitch. The streamer MontanaBlack was a guest on the stream of HandOfBlood. In the past, there had been repeated conflicts between these two leading German content creators: HandOfBlood had caused MontanaBlack to receive a Twitch ban, and he had called him “leftist pig”: Now they want to smooth things over and perhaps set a sign for more tolerance together. The crux of the matter is the ongoing discussion about the Twitch streamer Shurjoka.
What is the past of the two?
- HandOfBlood caused MontanaBlack to receive a 30-day Twitch ban in 2020. He had posted a video on Twitter of MontanaBlack pulling through the streets of Malta, stalking women and making grunt noises. MontanaBlack later found the Twitch ban appropriate and distanced himself from his behavior.
- In 2023, MontanaBlack shot against HandOfBlood. During an award ceremony, the 35-year-old said: HandOfBlood belongs to a “leftist pig good guy bubble on Twitch” that criticizes him but has remained silent about Shurjoka’s misconduct towards Scurrows. Everything about that disgusts him.
- Recently, there was an approach within the “Baller-League”, where both influencers have football teams, initiated by HandOfBlood. HandOfBlood reached out to MontanaBlack in his role as “President Knabe” and praised his drink Gönrgy (via youtube).
HandOfBlood smooths out the waves, reaches out to MontanaBlack
What did the two talk about in the stream? In the Twitch stream from January 22nd, it was about smoothing out the waves between both. After the joint appearance in the context of the Baller League, both streamers talked to each other, praised each other for the joint action, and expressed their respect for each other’s work.
They emphasized that even though they had publicly criticized each other in the past, it was never personal, but rather they had often talked to each other in parallel. However, in recent years, that evidently fell short.
In the stream, HandOfBlood now extended his hand. Especially during the corona period, divisions had arisen. He wants to smooth those out. In the past, HandOfBlood had sought conflict more often. Nowadays, that is too exhausting for him. He can stand for his values this way too.
He would find it great if he could set a sign together with MontanaBlack, for instance, to advocate for the LGBTQ+ community.
“I felt like during the corona crisis we drifted apart more because there was no real exchange anymore.”
MontanaBlack says: He has changed, is a completely different person than during the Malta time
How did MontanaBlack react? The streamer was fond of the idea of a cooperation. He emphasized that he was very tolerant and that everyone can love each other. He has always seen it this way.
He is not the MontanaBlack of three years ago anymore, he sees it critically today with Malta. He has been shaped somewhat by the shitstorms of that time and has changed, today he is a completely different person. He has not generated any larger shitstorms for a long time.
The crux is Shurjoka and the reactions to streams from KuchenTV
What is the crux? HandOfBlood did not want to leave the narrative “MontanaBlack is now reformed and purified” uncommented. He pointed out to MontanaBlack that he had acted as a catalyst with his reactions to YouTube videos regarding the topic “Shurjoka” and had fanned the flames.
“If you say that nowadays everything is too stressful for you, but at the same time you are very involved in this very incendiary, beef-filled world that is currently taking place, I don’t know exactly what you mean by that.”
MontanaBlack replied: He is still an opinion maker and Shurjoka is indeed a current topic. People want to hear his opinion. However, he has never gone too far on this topic and has always expressed his criticism factually.
HandOfBlood said: The topic is very centered on Shurjoka. He believes she stands for “good things and values”. He finds that good and supports it as well.
MontanaBlack then yielded and said he does not want Shurjoka to have a bad experience.
In response, HandOfBlood said that he should stop reacting to the videos of a YouTuber who is now banned from Twitch for incitement against Shurjoka. Because that way Shurjoka is doing “extremely bad”. Due to the reactions, “a lot of people” go to Shurjoka’s profiles and write hate comments there. MontanaBlack would act as an accelerant here through his reactions.
MontanaBlack saw it differently: One cannot avoid a conflict just because a few idiots from the community then write such comments. The Twitch streamer said that he has often offered Shurjoka a private conversation.
HandOfBlood suggested to position themselves together within the framework of the Baller-League to stand clearly against discrimination of minorities.
MontanaBlack distances himself from the “drunken stream” against Shurjoka
MontanaBlack nodded several times here, saying he could “safely” imagine that. He is open to such actions and has always been. He is also interested in setting aside the topic “Shurjoka”. Although he jokingly thanked Shurjoka for the revenues he generates through the conflict in the past, he is not reliant on the revenues from videos on the topic. It works for him just as well.
However, he reacts to all videos from KuchenTV, even those against Shurjoka. Nevertheless, he wants to make it clear that he has distanced himself from the “drunken stream”, for which KuchenTV was banned from Twitch.
“That just didn’t work. That was simply too much. I also distanced myself from that.”
MontanaBlack emphasized that he does not approve of alcohol consumption. He himself has been “sober from everything for 11 years – except for the e-cigarette.”
More about the conflict around Shurjoka: Twitch streamer shows influencer for making nasty videos about her – He makes a nasty video about the complaint
