Players in Destiny 2 hate a PvP mode in Iron Banner – even threatening the staff

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The Weekly Reset brought in Destiny 2 the rework of the Iron Banner event and the PvP mode “Rift”. After an already weak start to the current Season 17, the Guardians hoped for some fresh wind. But when that didn’t happen, the frustration among some players led to a few extremely angry reactions. MeinMMO tells you what happened.    

What did the community criticize? Already after a few matches in “Rift” it was clear for many: This is not fun! The PvP mode would play worse than Control or other activities that were once part of the Iron Banner.

Update from June 3rd / 5:50 PM:
On Twitter, Liana Ruppert, Bungie’s Community Manager, has just released another, more detailed statement regarding the incidents.

In it, she addresses the hateful comments again and states that many studios have a strict “No Talk” policy with social networks exactly because of such behavior from players.
Many of the things that Destiny players wish for are already in progress, but cannot be discussed yet because things change, plans fail, or sometimes no longer make sense.

As far as the Bungie team is concerned, they will continue to listen to player feedback and continue discussions about the future.

You can read the complete feedback from the Community Manager on Twitter.

Some players were correspondingly frustrated and angry. Others shared possible improvements with Bungie, such as:

  • The black loading screen when teams are ported to the starting point
  • A missing match display between rounds showing individual performance
  • The number of rounds currently played in Rift mode
  • Bugs that cause the spark not to spawn and make the game impossible
  • As well as difficult-to-understand information on challenges, which caused confusion

The Community Managers of Destiny 2 received the Guardians’ feedback on Twitter and Reddit, as well as in the official Bungie forum, inquired about further points of criticism, answered questions, and also gave helpful tips.

Among them was not only Dylan “dmg04” Gafner, the Senior Community Manager, but also Liana “Hippy” Ruppert, Bungie’s newest Community Manager.

Liana “Hippy” Ruppert, Bungie’s newest Community Manager (Image: Twitter)

Player frustration turns into pure hate: What initially was solely criticism of a gameplay mode later turned into insults and vile slurs directed towards Bungie and its employees.

This became known when Liana “Hippy” Ruppert reported on Twitter the consequences of the physical threats against her. She reported threats and “honestly atrocious” insults.

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At this point, parts of the Destiny 2 community had clearly crossed the line between constructive criticism of a game and pure hate driven by personal frustration and anger.

As Liana Ruppert writes in a recent Twitter post: “It’s not just ‘mean words’, […] I don’t care. It’s the ones who have stalked me and put me in the hospital, sending images of dead women to my address, and so much more”

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After the Community Manager’s post, it was understandably important for many Destiny 2 players to publicly distance themselves from the behavior of such toxic threats.

Like the player wtfixur, who tweeted:

The people who work hard to develop our favorite games deserve respect, and those who support players even more. It is perfectly acceptable to have complaints about the game: However, address them respectfully through the right channels. Attacking individuals is NEVER okay.

posted wtfixur via Twitter

And the Destiny 2 player PDark also commented questioningly on Twitter:

The sheer anger that people can show over… mistakes in a video game that burns so bright and hot that it has to be directed at the employees of this game is incredible. How do they do it? How can they become so angry and toxic?

posted PDark on Twitter

Destiny 2 between constructive PvP criticism and pure hate

#BeBetter – Threats don’t make sense when constructive criticism is called for.

For some time now, some players have been dissatisfied with Bungie and the provided content in Destiny 2. Their criticism relates not only to the currently available content but also to the activities of the current Season 17, which some Guardians find disappointing.

The current issues of “Rift” in Iron Banner have stirred old emotions in some players that have maybe been building up for years.

The fact is that the community is largely so toxic and ungrateful that, no matter what Bungie does, it’s all wrong […]. I don’t understand the people who say: “Bungie has messed up everything since Shadowkeep”. “Bungie has been ruining everything since D2”. As if you’ve been playing a game for 5 years just to hate it. Then just leave the game and free up the servers.

like the player Enco commented on MeinMMO

The incident also highlights a growing problem that extends beyond Destiny 2 and has been present for years: Both game developers and their employees have to endure increasing personal insults, hostility, or even threats while doing their jobs.

Frustrations are one thing, but the current discourse surrounding the new mode Rift could not be further from being productive.

formulated the user First aptly.

MeinMMO has already highlighted this growing problem in gaming back in 2018.

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What happens next with the mode “Rift”?

Bungie has already announced that they will address the above and other player criticisms regarding the Iron Banner and the PvP mode “Rift” as soon as possible. Whether that will be enough for the players remains to be seen. However, if Bungie announces concrete fixes or changes, we will inform you.

Dylan Gafner (dmg04), Senior Community Manager, also wrote on Twitter: “We’re listening” is always the first step when it comes to feedback.”

In the coming days leading up to the Weekly Reset on June 7, Bungie intends to utilize the constructive and further feedback from players while addressing the already known issues.

The Community Manager also points out that the newly integrated mode “Rift” will have a “learning curve” in Destiny 2 and “defeating enemies is only a small part of the puzzle”.

What do you think about the hate from the community? Do you agree and believe Destiny 2 is no longer a place you want to be? Or do you believe in the Destiny universe and trust that Bungie will find viable solutions for players and that deep-rooted hate makes no sense? We would love to read your opinions on this topic in the comments.

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