In Destiny 2, reports are increasing that some players are being unfairly kicked from their fireteams by their LFG teammates. Especially in the endgame, this is a particularly nasty trick. The players who get kicked don’t receive any top loot or triumphs anymore.
It’s a really mean thing in Destiny 2 for players to currently ruin the game for their teammates. More and more players who have been trolled in this way are reporting it. Kicks from endgame activities are currently occurring more frequently through the LFG player search. Those searching for a fireteam for endgame content like raids or nightfall via LFG (Looking for Group) risk becoming victims of this unfair trolling.
This “team trolling” is made possible by the “kick player” option that Destiny 2 openly offers to fireteam leaders in the options menu.
- Fireteam leaders can independently remove fireteam members
- There is no vote on removing someone from the activity
- The remaining fireteam members gain no advantage from the kick
Players are abusing the feature: This “kick player” feature should actually only be used by fireteam leaders to remove toxic or AFK players. So whenever someone isn’t actively participating in a raid, negatively influencing the rest of the team, or behaving inappropriately. But the feature is now increasingly being abused.
Team trolling is no longer fun: Trolling is certainly part of every game. Especially teammates are often trolled in Destiny 2. However, it is no longer funny when it leads to unfair disadvantages. A kick just before the end of a tough activity intentionally denies players their loot. For example, in the nightfall, joining the fireteam is disabled. Kicked players cannot rejoin at all. There is also rarely, if ever, any remedy for such actions.
You can see how nasty the trick in the game really is in this video. Just before the player can collect their loot, they are kicked by the fireteam leader and wonder, “Why are people like this?”.
That’s why the action is particularly annoying: While normal loot is still sent to the post, this apparently doesn’t always happen for special raid loot. If a player finally drops the rare raid exotic Vex Mythoclast in the Glassed Chamber, they might not receive it.
Even in the Garden of Salvation, you definitely won’t receive the Divinity for completing the raid quest if you can’t open the chest at the end of the activity.
Team trolling is not only mean but also terribly unfair
Players in Destiny 2 find “team trolling” terribly unfair. It may sound fun, but when it happens to you, it’s very frustrating and not an experience anyone wants to have. Many affected players are therefore hoping for a solution from Bungie and even make their own proposals.
A player reports OhPxpi on reddit:
A few months ago, I spent 8 hours in the raid to help my friends get Divinity, only for all three of us to be kicked after we killed the boss. We managed it again the next day, but it was still annoying.
The player ThatsWat_SHE_Said was also affected and agrees with him, expressing his frustration as well.
I was kicked from a prophecy boss checkpoint when he [the boss] melted away. That was really a slap in the face because I was the only surviving member a few times and saved some hairy moments in that run. It felt damn great! You two a***** know who I mean.
Crypticfreak has similar experiences and also describes an idea in the subreddit of how Bungie could prevent such things in the future:
[…] being kicked right after clearing the boss should not be an option. At least, a temporary kick block should take effect during the last encounter […] which should last 120 seconds after the boss kill. I think this solves all these issues and is still fair to the legitimate team members. If a group tries to troll a blueberry, you can still kick him, but he at least gets his loot.
This topic has been hotly debated not only on reddit but also in the Bungie forum, where players keep reporting their bad experiences with the nasty kickers in LFG. The player DerpyTaco11 suggests in the forum, for example, to “award” these fireteam leaders in a very special way.
This is how other developers have solved the problem: Comparable shooters, like Outriders (in the June patch via reddit), who also faced similar problems, have already actively addressed the issue. A block has been implemented here that prevents players from kicking other players from the fireteam at the end of an activity. This means that those who make it to the boss also definitely receive their deserved loot.
After all, in the endgame, you might get exactly the item you need for a build like this:
In Destiny 2, it might even make sense if fireteam leaders could only remove fireteam members when the team is in orbit. Because not every player in Destiny 2 has a clan where they can always rely on their fireteam leader.
What are your experiences? Have you also been trolled and were unable to collect your loot or complete a triumph? Do you see potential in the solution proposal from crypticfreak?
