Outriders changes loot radically to save the game – Has it helped?

Outriders changes loot radically to save the game – Has it helped?

In his opinion, Outriders’ situation is different: 

“Outriders has not failed. And what this new patch and these recent changes to improve connection issues, damage mitigation and output, and various skills tell me is: Yes, I want further investments in this series, so DLC, an expansion, whatever.”

(via forbes.com)

This also corresponds to the opinion of many players who still enjoy the core loot mechanics of Outriders. 

Opinion: After a longer break, I returned to Outriders and indeed: Compared to before, the game now runs significantly smoother. Enemies don’t kill you so quickly and unpredictably with one hit, and you can react much better to the hordes of enemies. From a technical standpoint, there’s finally not much to complain about anymore.

Nonetheless: Outriders leaves me in a conflicted state. The shooter has a framework with its classes and loot mechanics that appealed to me from the beginning. Even the story, which many rated as mediocre, was enjoyable for me.

If the endgame around the expeditions weren’t so monotonous, the various technical issues wouldn’t bother me as much. But since the loot update, I have felt that the game is slowly moving in the right direction. 
However, one must not forget: It was supposed to look like this at launch, and Outriders took almost three months to fix the most severe issues. The crucial question is what happens next.

If future DLCs in the form of expansions and new endgame content do indeed follow, I will definitely play Outriders again. At the moment, however, there’s not much left for me personally, as the expeditions rush me through the game with their time constraints. I lose interest pretty quickly with such mechanics. That’s perfectly okay; the campaign offered plenty of gameplay hours.

Whether Outriders is worth it in the endgame depends on you as player types. If you enjoy the expeditions in this form and find such activities fun, it’s definitely worth checking back in. If you lost interest after the campaign, not much will change for you. 

Nevertheless, Outriders could offer much more through its multiplayer aspect. Urgent improvements need to be made to the online mechanics. No voice chat in 2021? And that in a game with crossplay? Matchmaking, even though the player has been AFK in their camp for hours? No choice of challenge level in the expedition search? There needs to be improvements in many of these little things to make the game “well-rounded”.



Tarek Zehrer
Freelance author at Mein-MMO

Is an expansion or directly Outriders 2 coming next?

What’s next for Outriders? Outriders and developer People Can Fly still have a lot of work ahead. Technical updates will certainly continue to come. But beyond that? Since the game was such a success for the publisher Square Enix, one can assume that they want to build on it.

Since May 19, we know that the publisher now sees Outriders as one of its next big franchises. (via eurogamer.net)

It is therefore quite likely that there will be DLC expansions. The developers had already confirmed this before the release of Outriders, should the shooter be a success.

At that time, it was also said that the DLCs would mainly be extensive expansions of the main story. So it will be exciting to see what the future holds.

However, it would not be surprising if Square Enix prefers to work directly on an Outriders 2 instead of focusing on DLCs. We will just have to wait and see.

Outriders seems to be able to avoid this path, as colleague Paul Tassi from forbes.com sees it. After the last update for Outriders, he wrote: 

“[…] the longer the game [Anthem] ran, the more it became clear that even ongoing improvements could not fundamentally save the concept at its core. And when it came time to decide whether Anthem deserved more work and investment, the answer for me (and EA) was no. It tried, it failed.”

In his opinion, Outriders’ situation is different: 

“Outriders has not failed. And what this new patch and these recent changes to improve connection issues, damage mitigation and output, and various skills tell me is: Yes, I want further investments in this series, so DLC, an expansion, whatever.”

(via forbes.com)

This also corresponds to the opinion of many players who still enjoy the core loot mechanics of Outriders. 

Opinion: After a longer break, I returned to Outriders and indeed: Compared to before, the game now runs significantly smoother. Enemies don’t kill you so quickly and unpredictably with one hit, and you can react much better to the hordes of enemies. From a technical standpoint, there’s finally not much to complain about anymore.

Nonetheless: Outriders leaves me in a conflicted state. The shooter has a framework with its classes and loot mechanics that appealed to me from the beginning. Even the story, which many rated as mediocre, was enjoyable for me.

If the endgame around the expeditions weren’t so monotonous, the various technical issues wouldn’t bother me as much. But since the loot update, I have felt that the game is slowly moving in the right direction. 
However, one must not forget: It was supposed to look like this at launch, and Outriders took almost three months to fix the most severe issues. The crucial question is what happens next.

If future DLCs in the form of expansions and new endgame content do indeed follow, I will definitely play Outriders again. At the moment, however, there’s not much left for me personally, as the expeditions rush me through the game with their time constraints. I lose interest pretty quickly with such mechanics. That’s perfectly okay; the campaign offered plenty of gameplay hours.

Whether Outriders is worth it in the endgame depends on you as player types. If you enjoy the expeditions in this form and find such activities fun, it’s definitely worth checking back in. If you lost interest after the campaign, not much will change for you. 

Nevertheless, Outriders could offer much more through its multiplayer aspect. Urgent improvements need to be made to the online mechanics. No voice chat in 2021? And that in a game with crossplay? Matchmaking, even though the player has been AFK in their camp for hours? No choice of challenge level in the expedition search? There needs to be improvements in many of these little things to make the game “well-rounded”.



Tarek Zehrer
Freelance author at Mein-MMO

Is an expansion or directly Outriders 2 coming next?

What’s next for Outriders? Outriders and developer People Can Fly still have a lot of work ahead. Technical updates will certainly continue to come. But beyond that? Since the game was such a success for the publisher Square Enix, one can assume that they want to build on it.

Since May 19, we know that the publisher now sees Outriders as one of its next big franchises. (via eurogamer.net)

It is therefore quite likely that there will be DLC expansions. The developers had already confirmed this before the release of Outriders, should the shooter be a success.

At that time, it was also said that the DLCs would mainly be extensive expansions of the main story. So it will be exciting to see what the future holds.

However, it would not be surprising if Square Enix prefers to work directly on an Outriders 2 instead of focusing on DLCs. We will just have to wait and see.

However, comparisons to other live-service games are repeatedly drawn, such as Destiny 2 or Bioware’s “dead” Anthem. 

Can Outriders make the turnaround that Anthem failed to achieve?

What happened with Anthem back then? The loot shooter had one of the most disastrous releases in recent years and was subsequently dropped by publisher Electronic Arts. You can read the whole story here: Anthem is dead – The short life and long death of EA’s “next big thing”

Outriders seems to be able to avoid this path, as colleague Paul Tassi from forbes.com sees it. After the last update for Outriders, he wrote: 

“[…] the longer the game [Anthem] ran, the more it became clear that even ongoing improvements could not fundamentally save the concept at its core. And when it came time to decide whether Anthem deserved more work and investment, the answer for me (and EA) was no. It tried, it failed.”

In his opinion, Outriders’ situation is different: 

“Outriders has not failed. And what this new patch and these recent changes to improve connection issues, damage mitigation and output, and various skills tell me is: Yes, I want further investments in this series, so DLC, an expansion, whatever.”

(via forbes.com)

This also corresponds to the opinion of many players who still enjoy the core loot mechanics of Outriders. 

Opinion: After a longer break, I returned to Outriders and indeed: Compared to before, the game now runs significantly smoother. Enemies don’t kill you so quickly and unpredictably with one hit, and you can react much better to the hordes of enemies. From a technical standpoint, there’s finally not much to complain about anymore.

Nonetheless: Outriders leaves me in a conflicted state. The shooter has a framework with its classes and loot mechanics that appealed to me from the beginning. Even the story, which many rated as mediocre, was enjoyable for me.

If the endgame around the expeditions weren’t so monotonous, the various technical issues wouldn’t bother me as much. But since the loot update, I have felt that the game is slowly moving in the right direction. 
However, one must not forget: It was supposed to look like this at launch, and Outriders took almost three months to fix the most severe issues. The crucial question is what happens next.

If future DLCs in the form of expansions and new endgame content do indeed follow, I will definitely play Outriders again. At the moment, however, there’s not much left for me personally, as the expeditions rush me through the game with their time constraints. I lose interest pretty quickly with such mechanics. That’s perfectly okay; the campaign offered plenty of gameplay hours.

Whether Outriders is worth it in the endgame depends on you as player types. If you enjoy the expeditions in this form and find such activities fun, it’s definitely worth checking back in. If you lost interest after the campaign, not much will change for you. 

Nevertheless, Outriders could offer much more through its multiplayer aspect. Urgent improvements need to be made to the online mechanics. No voice chat in 2021? And that in a game with crossplay? Matchmaking, even though the player has been AFK in their camp for hours? No choice of challenge level in the expedition search? There needs to be improvements in many of these little things to make the game “well-rounded”.



Tarek Zehrer
Freelance author at Mein-MMO

Is an expansion or directly Outriders 2 coming next?

What’s next for Outriders? Outriders and developer People Can Fly still have a lot of work ahead. Technical updates will certainly continue to come. But beyond that? Since the game was such a success for the publisher Square Enix, one can assume that they want to build on it.

Since May 19, we know that the publisher now sees Outriders as one of its next big franchises. (via eurogamer.net)

It is therefore quite likely that there will be DLC expansions. The developers had already confirmed this before the release of Outriders, should the shooter be a success.

At that time, it was also said that the DLCs would mainly be extensive expansions of the main story. So it will be exciting to see what the future holds.

However, it would not be surprising if Square Enix prefers to work directly on an Outriders 2 instead of focusing on DLCs. We will just have to wait and see.

Here, other players counter that Outriders is not a live-service game and therefore one should not expect much more. 

However, comparisons to other live-service games are repeatedly drawn, such as Destiny 2 or Bioware’s “dead” Anthem. 

Can Outriders make the turnaround that Anthem failed to achieve?

What happened with Anthem back then? The loot shooter had one of the most disastrous releases in recent years and was subsequently dropped by publisher Electronic Arts. You can read the whole story here: Anthem is dead – The short life and long death of EA’s “next big thing”

Outriders seems to be able to avoid this path, as colleague Paul Tassi from forbes.com sees it. After the last update for Outriders, he wrote: 

“[…] the longer the game [Anthem] ran, the more it became clear that even ongoing improvements could not fundamentally save the concept at its core. And when it came time to decide whether Anthem deserved more work and investment, the answer for me (and EA) was no. It tried, it failed.”

In his opinion, Outriders’ situation is different: 

“Outriders has not failed. And what this new patch and these recent changes to improve connection issues, damage mitigation and output, and various skills tell me is: Yes, I want further investments in this series, so DLC, an expansion, whatever.”

(via forbes.com)

This also corresponds to the opinion of many players who still enjoy the core loot mechanics of Outriders. 

Opinion: After a longer break, I returned to Outriders and indeed: Compared to before, the game now runs significantly smoother. Enemies don’t kill you so quickly and unpredictably with one hit, and you can react much better to the hordes of enemies. From a technical standpoint, there’s finally not much to complain about anymore.

Nonetheless: Outriders leaves me in a conflicted state. The shooter has a framework with its classes and loot mechanics that appealed to me from the beginning. Even the story, which many rated as mediocre, was enjoyable for me.

If the endgame around the expeditions weren’t so monotonous, the various technical issues wouldn’t bother me as much. But since the loot update, I have felt that the game is slowly moving in the right direction. 
However, one must not forget: It was supposed to look like this at launch, and Outriders took almost three months to fix the most severe issues. The crucial question is what happens next.

If future DLCs in the form of expansions and new endgame content do indeed follow, I will definitely play Outriders again. At the moment, however, there’s not much left for me personally, as the expeditions rush me through the game with their time constraints. I lose interest pretty quickly with such mechanics. That’s perfectly okay; the campaign offered plenty of gameplay hours.

Whether Outriders is worth it in the endgame depends on you as player types. If you enjoy the expeditions in this form and find such activities fun, it’s definitely worth checking back in. If you lost interest after the campaign, not much will change for you. 

Nevertheless, Outriders could offer much more through its multiplayer aspect. Urgent improvements need to be made to the online mechanics. No voice chat in 2021? And that in a game with crossplay? Matchmaking, even though the player has been AFK in their camp for hours? No choice of challenge level in the expedition search? There needs to be improvements in many of these little things to make the game “well-rounded”.



Tarek Zehrer
Freelance author at Mein-MMO

Is an expansion or directly Outriders 2 coming next?

What’s next for Outriders? Outriders and developer People Can Fly still have a lot of work ahead. Technical updates will certainly continue to come. But beyond that? Since the game was such a success for the publisher Square Enix, one can assume that they want to build on it.

Since May 19, we know that the publisher now sees Outriders as one of its next big franchises. (via eurogamer.net)

It is therefore quite likely that there will be DLC expansions. The developers had already confirmed this before the release of Outriders, should the shooter be a success.

At that time, it was also said that the DLCs would mainly be extensive expansions of the main story. So it will be exciting to see what the future holds.

However, it would not be surprising if Square Enix prefers to work directly on an Outriders 2 instead of focusing on DLCs. We will just have to wait and see.

Here, other players counter that Outriders is not a live-service game and therefore one should not expect much more. 

However, comparisons to other live-service games are repeatedly drawn, such as Destiny 2 or Bioware’s “dead” Anthem. 

Can Outriders make the turnaround that Anthem failed to achieve?

What happened with Anthem back then? The loot shooter had one of the most disastrous releases in recent years and was subsequently dropped by publisher Electronic Arts. You can read the whole story here: Anthem is dead – The short life and long death of EA’s “next big thing”

Outriders seems to be able to avoid this path, as colleague Paul Tassi from forbes.com sees it. After the last update for Outriders, he wrote: 

“[…] the longer the game [Anthem] ran, the more it became clear that even ongoing improvements could not fundamentally save the concept at its core. And when it came time to decide whether Anthem deserved more work and investment, the answer for me (and EA) was no. It tried, it failed.”

In his opinion, Outriders’ situation is different: 

“Outriders has not failed. And what this new patch and these recent changes to improve connection issues, damage mitigation and output, and various skills tell me is: Yes, I want further investments in this series, so DLC, an expansion, whatever.”

(via forbes.com)

This also corresponds to the opinion of many players who still enjoy the core loot mechanics of Outriders. 

Opinion: After a longer break, I returned to Outriders and indeed: Compared to before, the game now runs significantly smoother. Enemies don’t kill you so quickly and unpredictably with one hit, and you can react much better to the hordes of enemies. From a technical standpoint, there’s finally not much to complain about anymore.

Nonetheless: Outriders leaves me in a conflicted state. The shooter has a framework with its classes and loot mechanics that appealed to me from the beginning. Even the story, which many rated as mediocre, was enjoyable for me.

If the endgame around the expeditions weren’t so monotonous, the various technical issues wouldn’t bother me as much. But since the loot update, I have felt that the game is slowly moving in the right direction. 
However, one must not forget: It was supposed to look like this at launch, and Outriders took almost three months to fix the most severe issues. The crucial question is what happens next.

If future DLCs in the form of expansions and new endgame content do indeed follow, I will definitely play Outriders again. At the moment, however, there’s not much left for me personally, as the expeditions rush me through the game with their time constraints. I lose interest pretty quickly with such mechanics. That’s perfectly okay; the campaign offered plenty of gameplay hours.

Whether Outriders is worth it in the endgame depends on you as player types. If you enjoy the expeditions in this form and find such activities fun, it’s definitely worth checking back in. If you lost interest after the campaign, not much will change for you. 

Nevertheless, Outriders could offer much more through its multiplayer aspect. Urgent improvements need to be made to the online mechanics. No voice chat in 2021? And that in a game with crossplay? Matchmaking, even though the player has been AFK in their camp for hours? No choice of challenge level in the expedition search? There needs to be improvements in many of these little things to make the game “well-rounded”.



Tarek Zehrer
Freelance author at Mein-MMO

Is an expansion or directly Outriders 2 coming next?

What’s next for Outriders? Outriders and developer People Can Fly still have a lot of work ahead. Technical updates will certainly continue to come. But beyond that? Since the game was such a success for the publisher Square Enix, one can assume that they want to build on it.

Since May 19, we know that the publisher now sees Outriders as one of its next big franchises. (via eurogamer.net)

It is therefore quite likely that there will be DLC expansions. The developers had already confirmed this before the release of Outriders, should the shooter be a success.

At that time, it was also said that the DLCs would mainly be extensive expansions of the main story. So it will be exciting to see what the future holds.

However, it would not be surprising if Square Enix prefers to work directly on an Outriders 2 instead of focusing on DLCs. We will just have to wait and see.

Outriders faced numerous issues after its release. One of the biggest criticism points was the overly harsh grind for legendary loot. With the latest update, People Can Fly has now doubled the drop rates. Did it help? MeinMMO provides you with an overview of the current situation of the loot shooter.

So far, this is how it has gone for Outriders: The release on April 1, 2021, and the time afterward were anything but smooth. It all started promisingly with the free demo and successful sales numbers. For publisher Square Enix, Outriders is a success. 

However, the loot shooter struggled at launch with significant matchmaking issues, and numerous bugs made life difficult for players.

What is meant by a live-service game? These are games like Fortnite, CoD Warzone, or Destiny 2 that are continuously expanded with content since their release. There are seasons, battle passes, and in-game shops that generate real money. Outriders offers none of this and is marketed as a “complete” game.

Nevertheless, the developers have tried to improve the situation with numerous updates. With the latest update, the drop chance for legendary loot has been increased by 100%.

Has the update helped, and what does the state of Outriders look like now, three months after the release? We summarize the situation for you. 

Has the latest update helped?

What is the mood after the latest patch? The changes to the legendary drop chances have generally been well received by players. Many Outriders now report their loot luck and that it is finally worth grinding in the endgame.

Especially in the subreddit for Outriders, the better mood can be observed. Whereas in the past few months there were mainly disappointed posts and much criticism of the developers, there is now significantly more positive feedback. 

  • Phoenix Vanguard: “[…] my first run at level 14 with Silver Time yielded three legendaries. Was there something I wanted? Hell no. But they were all new. And most importantly: I immediately felt that my time was respected enough to keep playing. As if I had a REAL chance to get my set bonus. And after playing until 2 AM, I succeeded! I didn’t even notice how much time had passed; I actually had fun.” (via reddit)
  • C_Lana_Zepamo: “I can say the game runs better; the loading times are not as long as before (here on PS4). (via reddit)
  • Broad-Love7972: “It’s a great patch! My favorite so far.” (via reddit)
  • RobertoVerge: “I absolutely agree. After weeks of grinding for anything that even remotely approached a top-tier build, I now have what I need for a good pyro setup, and the game is so much fun now. It’s going in the right direction. (via reddit)

However, not everything is now peace, joy, and pancakes. Outriders still has some problems, as many players continue to make clear. 

Outriders has a long way to go

What other issues are there? Even though the situation has finally stabilized since the release, players still have several points of criticism. Especially the endgame with its expeditions is heavily discussed. 

How does it work? This is about completing certain missions within a time frame. The faster you are, the better the rewards at the end.

The problem is the time frame, which has annoyed many players since the release of Outriders. It favors builds that deal a lot of damage. Cooperative gameplay and the combination of different classes and playstyles fall by the wayside.

Moreover, this form of endgame is monotonous. Therefore, many Outriders wish for new endgame variants and generally more content. 

For some, it is simply too late, and they have already lost interest in the game. Here are some of the critical voices:

  • Digitek50: “The endgame needs a lot more content, and we need something for which we can spend drop pods.” (via reddit)
  • chrisapete123: “No more DPS-based endgame; that’s trash. Design the endgame so that we need a tank, DPS, and healer.” (via reddit)
  • fireflyry: “It’s great that they are working on it and fixing problems, but for me, the time window is over. I jumped back in for maybe an hour to check out the changes and was bored again.” (via reddit)

Here, other players counter that Outriders is not a live-service game and therefore one should not expect much more. 

However, comparisons to other live-service games are repeatedly drawn, such as Destiny 2 or Bioware’s “dead” Anthem. 

Can Outriders make the turnaround that Anthem failed to achieve?

What happened with Anthem back then? The loot shooter had one of the most disastrous releases in recent years and was subsequently dropped by publisher Electronic Arts. You can read the whole story here: Anthem is dead – The short life and long death of EA’s “next big thing”

Outriders seems to be able to avoid this path, as colleague Paul Tassi from forbes.com sees it. After the last update for Outriders, he wrote: 

“[…] the longer the game [Anthem] ran, the more it became clear that even ongoing improvements could not fundamentally save the concept at its core. And when it came time to decide whether Anthem deserved more work and investment, the answer for me (and EA) was no. It tried, it failed.”

In his opinion, Outriders’ situation is different: 

“Outriders has not failed. And what this new patch and these recent changes to improve connection issues, damage mitigation and output, and various skills tell me is: Yes, I want further investments in this series, so DLC, an expansion, whatever.”

(via forbes.com)

This also corresponds to the opinion of many players who still enjoy the core loot mechanics of Outriders. 

Opinion: After a longer break, I returned to Outriders and indeed: Compared to before, the game now runs significantly smoother. Enemies don’t kill you so quickly and unpredictably with one hit, and you can react much better to the hordes of enemies. From a technical standpoint, there’s finally not much to complain about anymore.

Nonetheless: Outriders leaves me in a conflicted state. The shooter has a framework with its classes and loot mechanics that appealed to me from the beginning. Even the story, which many rated as mediocre, was enjoyable for me.

If the endgame around the expeditions weren’t so monotonous, the various technical issues wouldn’t bother me as much. But since the loot update, I have felt that the game is slowly moving in the right direction. 
However, one must not forget: It was supposed to look like this at launch, and Outriders took almost three months to fix the most severe issues. The crucial question is what happens next.

If future DLCs in the form of expansions and new endgame content do indeed follow, I will definitely play Outriders again. At the moment, however, there’s not much left for me personally, as the expeditions rush me through the game with their time constraints. I lose interest pretty quickly with such mechanics. That’s perfectly okay; the campaign offered plenty of gameplay hours.

Whether Outriders is worth it in the endgame depends on you as player types. If you enjoy the expeditions in this form and find such activities fun, it’s definitely worth checking back in. If you lost interest after the campaign, not much will change for you. 

Nevertheless, Outriders could offer much more through its multiplayer aspect. Urgent improvements need to be made to the online mechanics. No voice chat in 2021? And that in a game with crossplay? Matchmaking, even though the player has been AFK in their camp for hours? No choice of challenge level in the expedition search? There needs to be improvements in many of these little things to make the game “well-rounded”.



Tarek Zehrer
Freelance author at Mein-MMO

Is an expansion or directly Outriders 2 coming next?

What’s next for Outriders? Outriders and developer People Can Fly still have a lot of work ahead. Technical updates will certainly continue to come. But beyond that? Since the game was such a success for the publisher Square Enix, one can assume that they want to build on it.

Since May 19, we know that the publisher now sees Outriders as one of its next big franchises. (via eurogamer.net)

It is therefore quite likely that there will be DLC expansions. The developers had already confirmed this before the release of Outriders, should the shooter be a success.

At that time, it was also said that the DLCs would mainly be extensive expansions of the main story. So it will be exciting to see what the future holds.

However, it would not be surprising if Square Enix prefers to work directly on an Outriders 2 instead of focusing on DLCs. We will just have to wait and see.

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