Today’s Mein-MMO is dedicated to the PvP of Destiny 2: the Crucible. All modes are to be played in 4v4 battles. What do you think?
One of the bigger surprises at the Destiny 2 gameplay event was the announcement: All PvP modes in Destiny 2 will be played in 4v4.
I cannot recall any post in the Reddit forum or any comment under our articles where a Guardian wished for a reduction in player count in PvP. There were no signs from Bungie before the gameplay premiere either. Accordingly, the first reactions in the community were quite surprised.
Because it is a radical innovation: It wasn’t said “Hey, we are introducing a new 4v4 mode”, but “Hey, all our PvP modes will be 4v4″. The player count is reduced from 12 to 8 or increased from 6 to 8. Even the Trials will be played in the “4 against 4” format. Why is that?
The Crucible is supposed to become more tactical
The first testers were already able to play the 4v4 mode “Countdown” in Destiny 2. They reported that PvP now feels slower. More tactical. Team play is more important. There are several reasons for this:
- A 4v4 is inherently slower and less chaotic than a 6v6
- In Countdown mode, a team can revive only four members per round. Every death matters. Therefore, players proceed more carefully.
- No tricks for faster movement, like “Skating”, exist anymore
- The “Time to Kill” has been increased – It takes longer for a Guardian to fall
The Crucible feels “slowed down”. And that’s precisely the goal, Bungie’s marketing director Eric Osborne tells Eurogamer. When the first internal tests with 4v4 battles were conducted, they reportedly felt very good. Team play and tactics would come much more to the forefront.
But why all modes?
That all sounds nice and well, and 4v4 modes can certainly enrich the Crucible, but many Guardians still ask the question: Why should there be only 4v4? Why not keep a few 6v6 or 3v3 modes? Or even introduce an 8v8 or even larger battles? The trend in the shooter scene, after all, is moving toward “bigger and more players”.
According to Osborne, the focus on 4v4 is an advantage for designers: They can create tailored maps and thus provide a better experience for players.
Last night, we launched a survey on this topic on our “Destiny 2” Facebook page. Hundreds of Guardians have already voted, with the opinions being quite balanced. A slight majority thinks it’s good that all modes are 4v4. In the comments, for example, it is noted: “Yes, 4v4 is good, but there should be alternatives”.
How the 4v4 will ultimately be received in the community will likely only become clear after the launch of Destiny 2.
Still, we now ask you: What is your opinion on this? Maybe with DLCs or events, there will be more modes in the game. But are you happy that there will only be 4v4 at launch?
Detailed information about the changes in the PvP of Destiny 2 can be found here.


