With the upcoming Destiny-2 expansion Forsaken, it’s going to be tough for our Hunter buddy Cayde-6. But is Uldren really the sole culprit, or is there possibly much more behind this?
Prince Uldren Sov, Master of the Crow, has been a controversial character among the Guardians since Destiny 1. His actions in the upcoming expansion Forsaken, where he takes out Cayde, one of the most beloved characters in the Destiny universe, have not exactly improved Uldren’s standing with players. However, a theory is circulating that someone else may be behind the murder, not just the Prince of the Reef.
A controversial figure becomes even less popular
Why does Uldren dislike Guardians? Players came to the conclusion during the Destiny 1 campaign that Uldren is an arrogant, conceited, and spoiled jerk. He is not very helpful when the Guardians ask for help in finding the Black Garden and comes across as downright rude.
The relevant cutscenes in the Reef from Destiny 1 are embedded here for you – complete with Dinklebot, the actor Peter Dinklage, as the initial voice of the Ghost and a voiced Guardian.
Players have been discussing for years whether the poor relationship between the City and the Reef is why Uldren is so mean to the Guardians. However, some players have theorized that the Prince may not be acting alone in Forsaken, but could be collaborating with another villain or even being manipulated.
Does the story continue with Nokris?
A second chance for a disappointing story? After the release of the Warmind DLC, players were somewhat puzzled. The campaign was incredibly short: after just five missions, we had already defeated Oryx’s younger son and a Worm God. A theory on the Destiny subreddit now posits that Uldren may have made a pact with Nokris to bring back his sister Mara.
Who is Nokris? Nokris is the younger brother of Crota, who was less loved by their father Oryx due to his physical weakness. To compensate for his shortcomings, Nokris sharpened his mind and made a pact with the Worm God Xol, the Will of Thousands, who taught him, among other things, the secret of resurrection.
Oryx then banished Nokris for his blasphemy, which represents the absolute opposite of the Sword Logic of the Hive, and removed his son’s name from all records.
What is the Sword Logic? The Sword Logic is the guiding religious principle of the Hive, based on the right of the stronger. According to the Sword Logic, it is not enough to simply defeat enemies. They must be completely eradicated to feed on what they leave behind.
Hive gods, like Crota or Oryx and his sisters, have ascended to such a degree through the Sword Logic that they possess their own Throne World in the Ascendant Realm, into which their soul returns when they are defeated in the material world. There they learn from their defeat and return stronger.
Could Uldren really be working with Nokris? Nokris is a powerful necromancer who could potentially bring Mara Sov back from the dead, should she have truly fallen in the battle for Saturn. Additionally, Uldren’s army, the Scorn, consists of Fallen who have frequently died and been resurrected. Sounds a bit like Nokris might also have a hand in this.
But didn’t we defeat Nokris in Warmind? We defeated Nokris’s younger son in our material world; however, he might also have access to his own Throne World in the Ascendant Realm. The Realm is closely associated with Darkness, and the Worm Gods live near this connection.
Although Nokris has turned away from the Sword Logic, through the pact with the Worm God Xol, he may have found another way to enter the Ascendant Realm.
Will Savathûn finally show herself?
Uldren is being manipulated by Savathûn: Another theory on the Destiny subreddit discusses whether Savathûn, Oryx’s sister, might actually be the true evil in the upcoming expansion. Since the vanilla version of Destiny 2, Guardians have been waiting for the Hive deity to reveal herself. There are several hints in the game regarding her appearance, not least in the strike on Titan, Savathûn’s Song.
Players on Reddit find a particular detail especially interesting: Uldren is said to hear a mysterious voice that drives him. Is this his sister guiding him or something more sinister posing as his sister? Guardians again suspect Savathûn, the Deceptive, manipulating Uldren for her own ends.
Why is Savathûn supposed to appear now? On Reddit, there are always wild theories about how Oryx’s cunning sister could make her debut in Destiny 2. The current discussion is based on the fact that the Dreaming City, one of the two new areas in Forsaken, has been overrun by the Taken. The Taken lost their leader after Oryx’s death and might now follow his sister. Additionally, the region exists in two parallel planes – our material world and the Ascendant Realm of the Hive, where Oryx’s sisters are just waiting to strike.
How plausible is the theory? This theory is flimsier than the one with Nokris, although it also offers several possibilities. Not only could Savathûn be responsible for the current state of the Dreaming City, but also one of the eight Barons – Fallen Outlaws that follow Uldren and were freed by him from the Prison of Elders.
One of the Barons, Mindbender, found a way to create his own Throne World in the Ascendant Realm. Perhaps the Fallen, in his experiments, pulled the Dreaming City into the Hive realm. Maybe this was an accident, but he could also have contacted the Hive, suggesting a collaboration with Savathûn.
What do you think about the theories? Does anything seem plausible to you, or do you have your own ideas about what the story of Forsaken could entail? Would you forgive Uldren if he didn’t act on his own, or are you more on the side of this Guardian?
